The Lazy CEO Podcast

Navigating Change and Uncertainty In The Workplace

by Aug 14, 2023The Lazy CEO Podcast

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In this episode, Navigating Change and Uncertainty In The Workplace

  • April Rinne was a guest on “The Lazy CEO Podcast,” hosted by Jim Schleckser. She is a globalist, futurist, and author of the book “Flux: The Eight Superpowers for Thriving in Continuous Change.”
  • The podcast episode delved into the concept of “flux” or continuous change, and how individuals and leaders can navigate and thrive in an environment of constant change. April Rinne discussed the importance of developing a “flux mindset” that sees all types of change as opportunities for learning and growth.
  • Trust emerged as a crucial element for managing change effectively. April emphasized the significance of both cognitive trust (reliability in tasks) and emotional trust (support and care for each other). Vulnerability and authenticity were highlighted as key aspects for leaders to build trust and encourage a culture of adaptation and collaboration.

Here is a glimpse of Navigating Change and Uncertainty In The Workplace

On an episode of “The Lazy CEO Podcast,” host Jim Schleckser welcomes April Rinne, author of the book “Flux: 8 Superpowers for Thriving in Constant Change.” Rinne is introduced as a globalist and futurist with a diverse background. She discusses her book and its focus on embracing and thriving in a world of continuous and unpredictable change.

Rinne explains that change has always been present, but technology has increased our awareness of change in the modern era, leading to heightened anxiety. She emphasizes the importance of developing a “Fluxx mindset,” which views all change, even challenging change, as an opportunity for growth. Rinne contrasts this with a fixed mindset that resists change.

The discussion turns to the role of culture in shaping attitudes toward change. Rinne points out that cultures differ in their approaches to change, whether individualistic or collectivist. She also discusses how trust is crucial in dealing with change and cites examples from her research on different cultural perspectives on trust.

The conversation shifts to how leaders can foster a culture that embraces change. Rinne stresses the need for leaders to start with themselves, be open to change, and model the desired behavior. She introduces the concept of “cognitive trust” (reliability) and “emotional trust” (caring for one another), highlighting the importance of building both types of trust within an organization.

The podcast hosts explore the idea of vulnerability as a key element in building trust and creating a safe space for dealing with change. Rinne emphasizes that leaders must be willing to admit mistakes and vulnerabilities, which can increase trust and foster a culture of open communication.

The episode concludes with a discussion of the leadership qualities needed in a rapidly changing world. Rinne highlights the importance of comfort with ambiguity and a tolerance for uncertainty, stressing that acknowledging one’s limitations and not having all the answers is essential to effective leadership in a world of constant change.

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